Churches Rapture (fall away)

The word rapture is not found in the scriptures, but this is the Greek word where the word rapture came from;

726. harpazo har-pad'-zo from a derivative of 138; to seize (in various applications):--catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force).

However, the term falling away or fall away is found throughout in the Old and New Testament, not the term rapture, although we know what it means in reference to the body of believers, the Church, the Bride of Christ.

Neither is the teaching of a great apostasy, true the bible teaches many will fall from sound doctrine in the last days we have been in the last days since Jesus’ Christ ascended into the clouds, but the scriptures never refer to a great apostasy or that it would bring on, or be the event that would happen on, the day of the revealing of the wicked one, as the taking of the church from the earth will.

(2 Timothy 4:2,3

2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; )
However, that is not the event that reveals the Wicked one (the final Antichrist)

Luke 8:13
They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. (Fall away from the truth)

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (falling away from the earth)

Hebrews 6:6

If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. (Fall away from the truth)

2 Peter 3:17

Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

II Thessalonians: (talks about what holds back the revealing of the wicked one, until and when the Church is pulled out of the earth)

(Just as verse 3 does)

(3.Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition ;) (Fall away from the earth)

5. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?


6. And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. (The church with the Holy Spirit holding back the wicked one)

7. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. (The Church with the Holy Spirit Letteth)

8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: (the Church with the Holy Spirit taken out of the way to allow the revealing of the Wicked one)

The context of this passage is what happens when the Church is taken out of the earth and out of the way of the Antichrist and his plans, and how those who are left that will believe the lie from him will be damned.

11.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Verse 12 tells us only those (all) who believed not the truth will be damned thus leaving the new believers a chance, but they will suffer through the throes of the tribulation to salvation.

Modern version which upholds the idea that a great falling away of believers from the truth of the Gospel will bring about the revealing of the Antichrist.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (Amplified Bible) (AMP)

Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition),

All modern version readers who hold to the AMP Bible and believe that the bible teaches ‘Once saved always saved’, how do you reconcile the idea that a great falling away of believers from the Gospel of truth will happen(the apostasy comes first) and will bring on the revealing of the Wicked one, the final Antichrist.

How can these believers apostatize and fall away, when you believe that one cannot lose their salvation. If you claim these are not believers then what are these sinners falling away from to be damned when un-repented sinners are already on their way to perdition short of repenting of their sins and accepting Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 6:4,5

4, For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
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Once saved always saved’ believers, are these verses talking about sinners who have never been saved? If so how can one be enlighten and made a partaker of the Holy Ghost and not be saved?

6.If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Romans 8:11

But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

How can one partake of the Holy Ghost and not have dwell him, i.e. how can one partake of bread and wine and not have it dwell in them?


2 Thessalonians 2:3 King James Version (KJV)

3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Man of sin revealed how? By a falling away, when, on that day
This verse is teaching what one event will happen on the day that will reveal the Antichrist, not what events or change in believers attitudes that will take place prior to that revealing.

This is a clear reference to the rapture event, the believers taken out of earth to allow the Antichrist to be revealed, come forth and deceive all who believe not the truth.

If you believe that the pulling of the church out of the earth (rapture event) is the event which will allow the Antichrist to be revealed, where is the reference to the rapture in this verse for that eventful day if not in the phrase a ‘falling away first’ the (Church falling away from the earth).

The first verse of chapter2 sets the theme of the chapter.

1.Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

(Paul is about to reveal in this chapter what event will happen on the day Antichrist is revealed, as the Antichrist cannot be revealed until this event takes place, that event is the rapture the Church taken out of the way.

Paul assures us not to worry as we will not be here to see it happen. In verse 2 and 3 we are told not to worry or be deceived by anyone as we will be gone and we need not even be concerned about it.

Our mandate is to turn as many as we can to the truth of the Gospel, that Jesus died for us and we need only accept his free gift of salvation.

(“by our gathering together unto him” is a clear rapture reference. Then verse 3 teaches what event will take place on the day the Antichrist is revealed, the falling away of the Church, the rapture.

This is a response to the idea that 'Originals Only' are inspired.

Disclaimer: I did not draft it, so I can not take credit for the logic and common sense that this draft displays.

I find it to be the most intelligent reply to the silly notion that we can not have an inerrant and complete inspired Bible today because "Only the Originals" were inspired, and we do not have them on earth today.

If you are a modern version reader and advocate of such, and are using this excuse to continue in a modern version Bible or use it against those of us who believe that we do have a perfect Bible, for most of you there will probably be way to much common sense and logic in this for you to digest. However, if you are honest you might consider re-thinking your position of no English Bible is perfect and inerrant, (except the KJB 1611-1769).

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The actual commitment of the words of God to paper has nothing to do
with inspiration. That is preservation.
The "original autographs" was the preservation of inspired scripture
just as the King James is today.
The writing of the original autographs was simply God PRESERVING what
He had INSPIRED, just as with the subsequent COPIES. There is NO
DIFFERENCE between the act of writing down the original autographs
and the act of COPYING them. Both were a RECORDING process. The fact
is, in MANY cases (Jeremiah, Pauls letters, etc.,) the writing of the
original autographs was nothing more than a scribe COPYING down
dictation of what he HEARD from a prophet or an apostle.

God breathed into Adam and he became a living soul.
What happens when God's breath enters into something?
Remember when Ezekiel was in the valley of dry bones? God told him to
prophesy to those bones.
Those bones became covered with everything that makes a human being,
but they weren't alive.
God put breath into those bones and they came alive!

What happened when God gave his words by inspiration?

Heb 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper
than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of
soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of
the thoughts and intents of the heart."

That word of God is "quick." It's Alive!
THAT'S What inspiration is!
God breathed life into His words!

Inspiration is a continuous thing.
The words of God are living words. They do not die.
If the Book I hold in my hand is the word of God then it is given by
inspiration.

There is no call for separating the original autographs as something
different than the inspired copies. To do so is to make the originals
something more than the copies, which is unbiblical.
Both the "originals" and the copies are the preservation process.

Inspiration is an ATTRIBUTE.
Preservation is a PROCESS.

Genesis 3:1
“Yea, hath God said”…

The very first attack upon the word of God came from Satan and was delivered to Eve in the form of a question in the Garden of Eden:

Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

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Eve fell for Satan’s twisting of Gods word as Satan planted doubt into the mind and heart of the woman. Adam went along with Eve even though he knew what God had commanded by his spoken Holy word.

Today we can hear Genesis 3:1 echoing from every modern version from the RV of 1881 to the latest new modern version coming off the printing presses today. They echo the subtle lying question from Satan to Eve in Genesis 3:1 “Yea, hath God said”… as they print scriptures in their pages which are in direct conflict with the 400 year old KJB and the six English bibles preceding:
Tyndale’s Bible, Coverdale’s Bible, Matthew’s Bible, The Great Bible, Bishops Bible and the Geneva Bible, and even in conflict other modern versions some even in conflict with their own modern editions of the past.

When we hear the life mates of many well known TV preachers begin to come to the pulpit to preach on the coattails of their husband’s ministry they all seem to be quoting from some modern version, thus still buying the first lie from Satan, “Yea, hath God said”… many of these TV preachers built their ministry from the scriptures in the KJB, but have given in to the modern versions by the use of their life mates.
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Corrupting’ or ‘selling’ God’s word? “Yea, hath God said’…?
2 Corinthians 2:17 King James Bible (KJV) is very clear in what this scripture teaches.

17.For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
However, the modern versions are still echoing Satan’s lie, “Yea, hath God said”…? ‘corrupting’

Let’s take a look at what many former 1611-1769 KJB readers are now taught God really meant in this verse by the New King James Bible. A modern version which is touted as an easier to read and understand King James Bible, and sadly this perversion is praised and spoke highly of by many well known people in the National Christian spotlight.

Many Christians are blindly following the recommendations of many well known people like Billy Graham, one who has been a spokesman for this perversion of perversions. You may be a follower of Billy Graham and highly esteem his contribution to the Christian Community as I have been in the past.

However, Dr. Billy Graham, like everyone else, is not beyond making a mistake in judgment and is not all knowing. The KJB speaks to this issue of mans propensity to err in judgment:

•Jeremiah 12:6
For even thy brethren, and the house of thy father, even they have dealt treacherously with thee; yea, they have called a multitude after thee: believe them not, though they speak fair words unto thee.

Exodus 23:8
And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.

Deuteronomy 16:19
Thou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous.

Not commonly known among Christians, Billy Graham met with the Pope and accepted a gift of honorary priest hood from the Roman Catholic Church. Billy Graham began after this to refer any who responded to his call for repentance in his latter crusades who was a Roman Catholic to a Roman Catholic Priest, to keep them in the Roman Catholic religion.

There was always Roman Catholic Priest at hand in his latter crusades to handle any one who was a Catholic to keep them in the Roman Catholic Church. This was Billy Graham’s arrangement with the Pope.

I do not mean to take away any from Dr. Billy Graham’s past efforts and to those who may have given their lives to Jesus Christ in his many crusades and are in a protestant denomination. However, we are to follow the word of God and not a man. Men will fail us but the word of God will never betray or fail us.

•Proverbs 4:20
My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.

•Proverbs 5:7
Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth.

Jeremiah 23:36
And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.

•Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

•Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Here is how the ‘New king James Bible’ presents and teaches this scripture.

2 Corinthians 2:17 New King James Version (NKJV)
(Changes ‘corrupting’ into peddling, selling the word of God. This changes the very meaning of this verse)

17. For we are not, as so many,[a] peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ.

(Is it beyond the realm of logic and wisdom to surmise that Satan is using this verse to cover his tracks, and trying to eradicate any scripture reference to how he is corrupting the Word of God?)
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The rest of the modern versions also change the word ‘corrupting’ “Yea , hath God said”… stills echoes from all modern versions and from most TV preachers wives as they take to the pulpit, from Jan Crouch, Gloria Copeland, Cathy Duplantis, Creflo Dollars wife, Joyce Meyers to name a few, are echoing Satan’s, “Yea, hath God said”…

I am not saying that these women are purposely trying to do anything wrong, I am sure that these women have a heart for God and would not do anything wrong on purpose. .

However, so did the Apostle Paul when he was going about persecuting and putting Christians to death. Paul truly believed that he was serving God’s purpose even though he was deceived by Traditional Jewish Religious teaching.
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Isaiah 55:11 KJB
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Sadly many are sending the words of modern scholars from modern version bibles and these words being not Gods word will not accomplish anything. There is no scriptural mandate for God to honor the altered words of modern version bibles.

God has put warnings in the scripture concerning adding and changing his word.

Deuteronomy 4:2 (KJB)
2.Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 (KJB):
32.What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5, 6 (KJB):
5. Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Psalm 119:158 (KJB):
158. I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved; because they kept not thy word.

Revelation 22:19 (KJB):
19. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (This verse should make modern version bible writers and advocates turn white with fear)

Mark 4:14, 15 (KJB):
14The sower soweth the word.
15.And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Modern versions still echoing “Yea, hath God said”… are doing what God commanded us not to do, adding and taking away from God’s Word.

It is obvious to anyone who can read that the modern versions have altered, changed meaning and context, and omitted many verses of scripture found in the KJB 1611-1769 Holy Bible.

The question we have to answer is what bible contains the infallible, inerrant word of God, which one can I put my faith in?

All modern versions from the 1881 RV to present day have conflicting verse renderings and verse omissions that are found in the 1611-1769- KJB and even among other modern versions themselves.

All the Great Preachers, Evangelist, and Apostles of the past read and studied the 1611-1769 KJB. All professional Archaeologist use the KJB as a reference for finding ancient ruins. The KJB’s prophecies of current times have all came to past, not one has been wrong so far.

I put my Faith in the 1611-1769 KJB a tried and faithful friend from God, able to feed my soul with God’s pure words and keep me in the faith once delivered to the Great Saints of the past.