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 Dumpster Diving in the Modern Church
 



Consider this , as a family leaves Church one Sunday morning they pass a grocery store and witness a homeless person going through the stores dumpster in the back of the store and putting food thrown out into a cart. One of the children says “look father that man is picking things out of that dumpster and putting them in his cart”!
The Father comments, “yes, isn’t that awful, how could anyone eat from a trash dumpster”.

Another child laments, Oh Father I left my NKJV bible on the pew at church and I was asked to do a study on II Timothy for Wednesday night youth class. The Father says doesn’t worry you can use my NIV study Bible and Moms AMP Bible and you can pick up your NKJV later.

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Modern Bible churches are feeding from the trash dumpsters of Bibles. However, unlike the many homeless and desperate ones in need of sustenance who know quite well that they are feeding form the trash dumpsters of life, the modern version bible feeder for the most part are in denial that they are feeding the trash bins of Christian life, the modern version Bibles.

Similar to the trash dumpster feeders who rightly say that there is some things found in the dumpsters that is still nourishing and good to eat. Some modern version bible advocates will say that not everything found in modern Bibles is bad and the basic salvation food can still be found in the (trash of) modern version bibles and besides they are easier to read and understand. (As they are fooled into believing by the false claims of modern bible publishers)

The infamous Sinaiticus manuscript (which is reported to have been erased in many parts and written over a vast many words by many different people), is held by the Catholic Church and ironically was itself found and pulled from a trash bin in Saint Catherine’s Monastery by Mr. Tischendorf in 1844. This infamous manuscript is one of the foundations of the Alexandrian texts which come from Egypt, and is among the 5% minority text source. This is a glaring example of feeding from the trash dumpsters of ancient times, found in the pages of all modern version bibles.

Some modern version readers think that a small percent of differences found in the modern versions makes little to no difference in the broad scheme of things and they can pick through an still get the good spiritual food, just as the feeders from trash dumpsters think that they always pick through the trash found in dumpsters and eat only the good food found there.

The problem is some things found in dumpsters may look good but hidden away inside there may contain danger not perceived. The modern version reader is faced with the same set of circumstances as they pick through the plethora of altered and omitted words found in the various modern versions hidden subtle changes and omissions to context will leave those who choose dine on these modern version bible dumpsters weak at best and could cause severe damage to ones spiritual life, as one endeavors to fortify their faith in God.

Believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ as the MV’s say in 1 John 3:23.

Or believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ as the KJB says in 1John 3; 23.

I would submit that even Satan believes in Jesus Christ as well as all his demons cohorts. However, they do not believe on the name of God’s Son Jesus Christ, there is a very big distinction from believing ‘in’ and believing ‘on’.

Do you merely believe in the name God’s Son Jesus Christ, (as does as does all of God’s enemies), or are one of his who is truly believing on the name of the Son of God Jesus Christ.

If you are a modern version reader you are not being taught to believe ‘on’ but to merely believe ‘in’ the name of the Son of God Jesus Christ.

Spiritual trash food can and does produce a weaken and vulnerable Christian.

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 Are Christians to stupid to learn a few unfamiliar words?
 

Modern Bible advocates must think so.

Only a very small percentage of words in the 1611 English Holy Bible are not in common use today in everyday conversation. Instead of Christians learning their meaning they buy into the notion that modern bibles are needed with what is termed up to date language easier to understand words. Subtle message from bible publishers, you are too stupid to learn a few unfamiliar words used in God’s Holy Bible. Here are a few examples from the NKJV of so called easier updated words found in the 1611 KJB text;

Matthew 7:3 (King James Bible)
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Matthew 7:3 (New King James Version)
3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?

A beam is considerable larger than a plank, but hey the NKJV people must think that we can not understand the difference in the two. If you were sent to buy a beam and came back with a plank you boss would be a bit upset, but don’t worry ,you could point him to the NKJV and point out that a beam is to hard a concept to understand so I ask for a plank instead.

Do not even think that you possibly ever understand the focused meaning of the word ‘thine’, as the NKJV substitutes ‘your own’ for, two words to one word. After all the NKJV is just eradicating all those silly words that we do not have the brain capacity to comprehend,

I suppose we must thank them for this great service to the Christian Church.

Matthew 7:14 (King James Bible)
KJB 1611: “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

Matthew 7:14 (NKJV)
14 Because[a] narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

The NKJV changes strait to “narrow” and then ‘narrow’ to “difficult.” ‘Strait’ to ‘narrow in one place and then ‘narrow’ to ‘difficult’

(I can only suppose the NKJV publishers and editors believe we can understand the concept of ‘narrow’ when it appears up front but cannot understand it when it is used close to the middle of the sentence. That for me is what is hard to comprehend, or could it be that they are just looking for that copyright and have to by copyright law change a substantial amount % of content in order to obtain a textual copyright?)

The way to salvation is not difficult. When the Holy Spirit brings conviction to one’s heart, it is not difficult to put one’s faith in Christ and ask for forgiveness. The way is narrow not difficult, however. Also, when the NKJV says the way is difficult, that makes it sound as though you must work your way into Heaven. Is that consistent with Scripture?

Ironically these same people find no major problem in learning the technical; language and terms for various industries and businesses. Each business or industry has its own vernacular and specialized words and phrases that would be hard for the people not in that industry or business to know what they mean.

Phrases such as ‘down load’, ‘up load’, safe mode and words such as ‘default’, ‘pixels’, ‘ram’, outside of the computer and media world some of these convey a completely different meaning and some have no reference at all to normal everyday life.


For example, many people today are still not up to speed with the specialized words that are used today in the computer world. Yet the people that are using computers have learned and are using these words and terms quite easily.

Many of these people are Christians whom claim that the 1611 KJB is to hard to for them to understand and they turn to a modern version bible, which they ignorantly think is easier to understand by believing the hype from modern bible publishers in their promotions, not realizing that thousands of word changes have actually changed the context, watered down, cast doubt and omitted many verses from God's word.

The subtle message being sent is, we can learn the specialized words and terms in the many business outlets, however when it comes to the word of God, we can not be bothered with taking the time to learn the small percentage of words not familiar to us in God’s Holy Bible.

The consensus is that English words have changed their meanings over time and we have to rely on some modern scholar to go back and take a look at the over five thousand Greek, and Hebrew manuscripts and re translate what has already been translated and has served the Christian Church quite well for over 400 years.

If the English words have changed meanings some what over time, why has not the Greek also some what changed word meanings and why is it considered to be exempt from word meaning usage and change?
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 Version of or the Real Deal?
 

ver•sion
noun \ˈvər-zhən, -shən\
Definition of VERSION
1
: a translation from another language; especially : a translation of the Bible or a part of it
2
a : an account or description from a particular point of view especially as contrasted with another account b : an adaptation of a literary work c : an arrangement of a musical composition
3
: a form or variant of a type or original
4
a : a condition in which an organ and especially the uterus is turned from its normal position b : manual turning of a fetus in the uterus to aid delivery
— ver•sion•al \ˈvərzh-nəl, ˈvərsh-; ˈvər-zhə-nəl, -shə-\ adjective
See version defined for English-language learners »
Examples of VERSION
1. Let me tell you my version of what happened.
2. We heard two different versions of the story.
3. A new version of the word processing program should be available soon.
4. I have an older version of the software.
5. This new design is better than the first version.
6. A film version of the novel is being made.
7. the King James Version of the Bible
Origin of VERSION
Middle French, from Medieval Latin version-, versio act of turning, change, from Latin vertere to turn — more at worth
First Known Use: 1582

AS one can plainly see the Latin derivative ‘versio’ of the word ‘version’ denotes something that is not in keeping with the original, but denotes a change from the original. Not only a change in vernacular but also a change in a particular point of view as contrasted with the original.
A more accurate label for the 1611 KJB English Holy Bible would be an edition. An edition from the six preceding English Bibles namely: the Tyndale Bible, Coverdale Bible, Matthew Bible, Great Bible, Geneva Bible, Bishops Bible.
All of these English Bibles used the same translation parameters as did the 1611, which was compared to these along with the T.R. (received text).

This makes the 1611 English Holy Bible the seventh edition in the line of English Bibles. Christian Doctrines , historical accounts and events, and biblical context remains the same throughout these six prior English Bibles as it does in the 1611 text minus any typo printing errors and uniformity of spelling rules, as the scriptures say in:
Psalm 12:6
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. .

The term ‘edition’ does not carry or hint of any of the changes or turns in content and perspective as does the word ‘version’.

Definition of VERSIFIER (Another word of the Latin derivative versio)
: one that versifies; especially : a writer of light or inferior verse

This Latin derivative always carries a negative or a changed and or a turned connotation.

That being established, when one calls any English Bible a version, this means it is not in keeping with the original context and intent of the original commonly called Holy Bible.

This begs some important questions for logical thinking people:

(Here are just a few which comes to mind)

1. What then is this original Holy Bible of which these versions are trying to portray?
2. Where can we obtain a copy to check for errors in any one of these so called versions of the Holy Bible?
3. How can a Christians believe the 1611 English Holy Bible to be a version of the Holy Bible and then believe it to be the true word of God and continue to read, study and preach it as truth when one can not logically know which part is truth and which part has been changed and or turned to another point of view from the original intent? ( where is the proof text to compare it with)
4. How can any English version of the Holy Bible be maligned as in error without the original English Holy Bible to compare and contrast with?
5. Should not we first establish which English Bible is the true one to make our assessments of the others by?
6. One English Bible has been around preached and used for around 400 years, Should we not objectively investigate the validity of this one before we deem it a version of the true Holy Bible maligned as fraught with errors with no standard to compare and contrast it by?
7. Why is the 1611 English Holy Bible now called the King James Version when the original title page to this English Bible called it simply , the ‘Holy Bible’, not a version of the Holy Bible or the King James Version of the Holy Bible?

Definition of EDITION
1
a : the form or version in which a text is published b (1) : the whole number of copies published at one time (2) : a usually special issue of a newspaper (as for a particular day or purpose) (3) : one of the usually several issues of a newspaper in a single day
2
a : one of the forms in which something is presented b : the whole number of articles of one style put out at one time

3
: copy, version
See edition defined for English-language learners »
Examples of EDITION
1. the latest edition of the software
2. The errors were corrected in the book's second edition.
Origin of EDITION
Middle French, from Latin edition-, editio publication, edition, from edere to bring forth, publish, from e- + -dere to put or -dere (from dare to give) — more at do, date
First Known Use: 1555

edi•tion
Pronounced:
/ɪˈdɪʃən/
Function:
noun
Inflected forms:
plural edi•tions
Meaning:
[count] 1 a : a particular version of a book ▪ an illustrated edition [=a version that has pictures] ▪ a hardcover/paperback edition b : a particular version of a product ▪ the latest edition of the software
2 : all the copies of a book that are printed or published at one time ▪ The errors were corrected in the book's second edition. —see also first edition, limited edition
3 : one of the several versions of a newspaper that are printed for a single day ▪ the late edition ▪ the city edition
4 : something that is presented as one of a series ▪ the most recent edition of the city's film festival ▪ tonight's edition [=episode] of the show

The word ‘edition’ when referring to the English Holy Bible deemed to be the true Holy Bible in English is a more accurate label.

To recap, the word ‘version’ denotes a change, turn with a different perspective’ while the word ‘edition’ carries a sameness in the main body of information that may include some special features, such as illustrations, pictures, self helps etc. while leaving the context etc. the same.

The enemies of the English Holy Bible well knows that if they can get all Christians to think of the 1611 English Holy Bible as a ‘version ‘of the quote “Holy Bible” then they would be more likely to accept another version, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another etc. which would never stop and each one would get further and further from the correct and true words of God.

In time we would see a generation that would know for sure what the true word of God is. I feel that we have almost hit that plateau in our modern churches today. Many modern pastors using these modern bible version are getting burned out leaving the pulpit and many Christians in the pews are struggling in their life as they are not hearing or standing on the true words from God, as it is not being preached in way too many modern church congregations and from many TV preachers as well.

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 Rules to read the KJB
 

Rules to read the Word by:

Rule number 1: Assume that the KJB is always 100% correct AS WRITTEN, no matter what, because it is. (John 17:17)

Rule number 2: Use the KJB as the Final Written Authority on all matters of faith and practice. (Psalm 119:105)

Rule Number 3: If encountering a difficult word or passage, you assume it is an error (impossibility), know that you are now the one in error. (Romans 3:4)

Rule number 4: Dig within the Bible first and foremost for the answer-in English. The answer is there, without any assumptions, objectively. Biblical context is always the key.

Rule Number 5: Use an old Webster's dictionary and assume the meaning in 2010 is not the same as 1611. Many words are not. This dictionary is free and online.

Rule Number 6: Accept the plain sense answer from Scripture, not applying your bias, spin or anything else to it.

Rule Number 7: If there is no real, conclusive answer from Scripture on a difficult passage and the meaning of the words are clear, assume nothing more than God will tell you what it means in Heaven.
(You cannot live long enough to know the entire meaning of everything in the Bible. This difficult word or passage is not going to save you or send you to hell. The Gospel is simple, and so is most of the Bible; rejecting it will send you to hell. Those odd passages we do not know about are not wrongly translated; they are obscure to us (Deuteronomy 29:29). They are also few and far between).

Since 1611, no one has ever found a single error or corrected the KJB, so do not think/assume you will be the first. It has withstood much smarter, tougher, clever, diabolical attacks than you can bring to it.

Any other position than this, on this, brings utter confusion, conflicting authorities, a lack of faith. Just look at the mainstream church out there. (Judges 17:6)

Let the scriptures speak for its self; God’s spoken voice is indeed the Lord Jesus Christ. It takes a prideful theologian to make hay out of a very simple truth.

• John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

• John 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

(God made the world and everything else by his spoken voice which was indeed Jesus Christ whom was made into flesh and walked on earth and was crucified for all who accept his free gift of salvation)

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the.

It is common knowledge that the New Testament was being lived out and was not all contained in one source to be called a book or as part of the scriptures of the Holy Bible as we now have. When John and others of that time referenced the ‘word’ or scripture they were talking about the Old Testament. The Old Testament scrolls in the possession of the Jewish community.

Jesus was in fact the very embodiment of the Old Testament, (‘the Word was made flesh’) as reports John in 1:14. The New Testament was the ‘Word’(s’) , Jesus Christ life, things the ‘Word’ of the old testament did and said in his earthly existence.

In the Book KJB, New and Old Testaments to the goodness of God’s Grace and mercy.

Clyde Harris (CKH)
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 Bible and US Constitution
 

The 400 year old English Holy Bible (1611-1769) and the US Constitution
(They both are in peril today)
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The true English Holy Bible
The English Holy Bible teaches us how to be saved and live a protected and free life from demonic assault to the extent that we as Christians know what is the true English Holy Bible, and speak the words contain therein with faith and assurance that God will hear us and honor his words. God on the other hand has no obligation to honor words that have been altered and changed and omitted in modern versions by modern day quasi biblical scholars.

Isaiah 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

The US Constitution
The US Constitution will only protect our rights and freedoms to extent that we as free American Citizens protect and fight to uphold the rights and freedoms it affords us.
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Liberal politics leads to a liberal thinking Church and both have abandoned for the most part their foundation and standards. The US Constitution use to be the foundation for what the Government could and could not do, but alas that is slowly being replaced by political pressure to adopt socialistic ideas regardless what the Constitution will allow for.

Many people in our government hold or view our US Constitution in contempt and not worthy to still be a foundation for our way of life of freedom and the right to run our own lives as we see fit. Many feel it needs to be updated to reflect progressive nuances and current social norms and ideas. Without the foundation of our political freedom, which is found only in our US Constitution, we are subject to have our freedoms taken away at the whim of political pressure and propaganda by socialist politicians who have duped the public into electing them.

It has been said before , however many seem not to remember, that a government which can give you all you need can at some point take all from you, and you will be helpless to stop them as your protections found in the US Constitution has been abandoned for unchecked left wing political power.

In a similar manner our Christian establishment, which includes almost all established denominations today view our 400 year old Holy Bible (1611-1769 KJB) not worthy to be protected and needs to be corrected and tweaked to reflect the current popular language nuances and social norms and ideas.

There was a time any lay Christian could check a minister’s message by reading for themselves the scripture which is being used to uphold their sermon. Today, however, many ministers are using multiple modern versions (which read different in many scriptures, changing context and omitting and or relegating many scriptures to doubt producing footnotes) and unless you are using their modern version of their choice, or choices, you have no way of checking them, if you are reading the 400 English KJB 161-1769.

On top of the many modern versions being used many are also self correcting the Bible by claiming the in the original Greek and or Hebrew such and such word literally means (blank) and some even claim, “but I like what it says in the such and such modern version. This is often done in the rare occasions one is actually reading from the 400 1611-1769 KJB which is always held up for ridicule and self correct

Never in the minds of these modern ministers does the thought that the Holy Bible should be the last word on meaning and context. The Holy Bible 1611-1769 is always held up against .these other sources as not quite up to a standard set up by scholars who themselves have no one standard that they can go to for correction and reproof.

For many ministers the Holy Bible (1611-1769 KJB) is no longer the standard for God’s word in English, the many modern versions and some type of lexicon, Greek or Hebrew dictionary takes precedent over the Holy Bible. For these ministers there is no standard any more to rely on. They state the erroneous claim that the Holy Bible is inerrant and perfect in the original manuscripts, which they well know are no longer in existence. Their stand is simple, however they fail to see it, they have no Holy Bible standard on which they can rely as a perfect standard, and to them God has failed to keep his ‘word’ intact and with out error.

The established church can at will claim any scripture is in error and put forth any ‘off the wall’ doctrine based on a modern scholar who could claim they have evidence that a scripture or scriptures are not part of the Holy Bible. With no standard to rely on any verse could be in doubt any one of a plethora of sources could at any time be claimed as the final authority, superseding the authority of the 400 year old English Holy Bible 1611-1769.

In like fashion liberal leftist politicians can at any time deem any law and or regulation as constitutional based on the plethora of modern mans twisted sense of un-biblical morality and socialist reasoning,” for the greater good the socialist politician will say”.

The leftist liberal political landscape as well as the liberal modern popular ministers and their mega Churches are akin to each other in their liberal philosophy, which is, they both have no concrete standard in which they can rely on.

The liberal leftist politician has for the most part abandoned the US Constitution as their basis (standard) for ruling and the modern ministers have forgone our 400 year old English Holy Bible 1611-1769 as their basis (standard) for their preaching and teaching.

2 Peter 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

•1 Timothy 1:10
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

•2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

• Titus 1:9
Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

• Titus 2:1
But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:

Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

The word of God is wise counsel, but sadly there is now no agreement in the modern Church as to what is wise counsel.

Isaiah 5:21
Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

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